Post by Sweet on Jun 5, 2016 11:53:29 GMT
It's definitely Chosen for me.
It's not because of the cliffhanger in NFA because I love those a lot and, generally speaking, I can't say that I don't like NFA or ATS either, but I think the show, just like the character (Angel), is too contradictory and fails in its messages.
In that final episode we see Gunn going to that girl, Anne, and asking her what would she do if she knew that what she was doing was useless and she basically answers that she still would go on doing it. And that's a great message. You still go on fighting.
But it's not what Angel does, he doesn't go on fighting. Apparently it's what he does but if you think of it, really think of it, what he does in reality is STOP fighting. He gives up, he basically commits suicide and drags everybody, his loyal friends and a whole city (without their consent) toward an almost certain death. What's good in that?
Another theme and message of ATS should be about redemption and imo it fails at this as well. One of the very last thing Angel does is ordering Lorne to bloodcoldly kill Lindsay. Because 'he isn't part of the solution'. Uh? Let's say it's true, that Lindsay isn't part of the solution... firstly, who is? It doesn't seem that no one really is because one message is very clear: there is NO solution, you just go on fighting. So that's just an excuse or Angel to execute an old enemy and in doing so he fails with his own redemption. Secondly, even so, does this mean that Lindsay deserves to die? And who is Angel to decide who gets to live and who doesn't? Who deserves a chance to redemption and who doesn't? And why doesn't he order Harmony's death as well? Surely she 'isn't part of the solution' even more! So, no redemption for Angel, none for Lindsay, Lorne becomes a killer out of loyalty, and the shallow, treacherous Harmony gets a letter of recommendation. What's good in that?
On the other hand, despite the sometimes poor execution and some plot holes, Chosen fullfills all the show's messages, which aren't so different from ATS': we have the characters that go on fighting and the once 'evil' ones having their true redemption.
It's not because of the cliffhanger in NFA because I love those a lot and, generally speaking, I can't say that I don't like NFA or ATS either, but I think the show, just like the character (Angel), is too contradictory and fails in its messages.
In that final episode we see Gunn going to that girl, Anne, and asking her what would she do if she knew that what she was doing was useless and she basically answers that she still would go on doing it. And that's a great message. You still go on fighting.
But it's not what Angel does, he doesn't go on fighting. Apparently it's what he does but if you think of it, really think of it, what he does in reality is STOP fighting. He gives up, he basically commits suicide and drags everybody, his loyal friends and a whole city (without their consent) toward an almost certain death. What's good in that?
Another theme and message of ATS should be about redemption and imo it fails at this as well. One of the very last thing Angel does is ordering Lorne to bloodcoldly kill Lindsay. Because 'he isn't part of the solution'. Uh? Let's say it's true, that Lindsay isn't part of the solution... firstly, who is? It doesn't seem that no one really is because one message is very clear: there is NO solution, you just go on fighting. So that's just an excuse or Angel to execute an old enemy and in doing so he fails with his own redemption. Secondly, even so, does this mean that Lindsay deserves to die? And who is Angel to decide who gets to live and who doesn't? Who deserves a chance to redemption and who doesn't? And why doesn't he order Harmony's death as well? Surely she 'isn't part of the solution' even more! So, no redemption for Angel, none for Lindsay, Lorne becomes a killer out of loyalty, and the shallow, treacherous Harmony gets a letter of recommendation. What's good in that?
On the other hand, despite the sometimes poor execution and some plot holes, Chosen fullfills all the show's messages, which aren't so different from ATS': we have the characters that go on fighting and the once 'evil' ones having their true redemption.